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**REHAB Reply** Posted: 6/3/2008 12:40:10 PM

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**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 7/10/2008 8:07:29 PM

I think your way of thinking is ass backwards. And what gives you the knowledge of this industry, other than building a website, to know what information should be given to people who give away free staph infections in the kitchen? But what the hell do you care, your making the money now right?

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 7/15/2008 6:07:13 AM

Hmmm another way over protective post. Some people are unable to get an app'p, why should they be unable to follow a love of tattooing because of this. You are tarring everyone who can't get an app'p with the same brush, I could be more knowledgable than you with regards to infection provention etc, you just don't know nor take the time to find out. Hence my feeling when a reply like this is given is that your reasons for not education people is a million miles away from said reasons. Sorry if my instincts are incorrect, but at the end of the day, keeping an area clean and free from infection, avoiding cross contamination etc is not that difficult once you know, albeit THE most important issue, once you have a routine and the knowledge down, it isn't rocket science, is it!!

**Re:REHAB Reply** Posted: 7/15/2008 12:33:48 PM

The point here is, well

one
Is it legal to do, in whatever state or country you are at?

two
Does it look fair to those WHO have gotten a apprentiship. And is there a reason WHY it is so hard for you to get a apprentiship?

Yes, trying to keep dease control down is good point. But it's like trying to keep teens from getting aids, Abstance is better than a condom.
Not tattooing out of the house is better than training them, because niether TEENS should be having sex, and kitchen tattooers shouldn't be tattooing.......

You make everyone who HAVE WORKED HARD AND WENT EVERYWHERE AND DONE EVERYTHING TO GET A APPRENTISHIP feel like, OH I GUESS I DID THAT ALL FOR NOTHING.

NOT TO SAY YOUR POINT IS VOID.

People are going to tattoo out the house regaurdless. the spread of deases is bad.

This is a issue that has no real solution as of yet.

I think a goverment scolarship or grant, and a LIGITAMATE TATTOO COLLEGE would help.
But our industry needs a LIGITAMTE Union to make the descision of doing this first.

This is a longtime from now.

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 7/15/2008 2:22:29 PM

I agree completely with you for the most part, I don't like the idea that we are all tarred with the same brush though. For some of us we have no option but to work full time in another job, not even a question of getting an appt'p as we have our bills to pay. Does the fact that we would like to tattoo (personally I tattoo myself for now and have no intention of tattooing anyone else in the near future) in the way we want to automatically make us irresponsible within our cleanliness? our love of what we do? and the fact that we respect the artform? For some yes maybe, but to judge without question is something that the tattooed community has been trying to escape for many years, I still get turned away from nightclubs, still get looked at in the silent disrespected manner while doing my shopping on a saturday, I still get, 'Oh look what that silly man has done to his body', everywhere around me. I really could do without being judged by the people who have the same stigma attached to them that I do.
My personal thoughts are, I have done my app'p in tattooing in the chair for 20 years, for sure the urge to need to understand what it is about, how it feels to ink skin, I'm sure that is normal. My main point is, I've always left the bottoms of my legs for myself, I am clean, I have a separate room for tattooing, fully tiled, easy cleaning surface, the only thing I don't have is an Autoclav, but I'm only tattooing myself, I do with alternative steralisinf and use disposable tubes, tips, and needles, my machine gets a good wiping down with the best stuff I could find. Does the job. Now what harm an I doing? And please do not pigeon hole me.

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 7/18/2008 3:24:09 PM

The last paragraph says it all.

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 8/21/2008 2:33:43 AM

I want to get into the tattoo business. I have all my equipment, but the autoclav. I've tattooed myself and I guarantee I use disposable needles, tips and tubes. I've being involved with drawings since I was 8 years old. I'm almost 40. I think I have enough skills to start tattooing. Here's the problem that appears to be very common. I have a full time job. I need to keep up with it. There's no other way to survive, but working hard. What is so bad in tattooing friends, once is done in a disinfected environment? Why is so hard to get into appt'p? My guessing is the shops are interested in making money. It's all about money. They don't want to spend time teaching their "secrets". They don't think about how good somebody could be. They ask for a portfolio, before you walk into their shops. So, who was born first? The chicken or the egg?

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 1/23/2009 10:52:05 PM

ahhh this will never end, i know and learned a while ago, this gets you nowhere.
so here,i put some clues down to help those who love this art form, and are serious.

first-never,ever,ever, tell anyone that you are tatt2ing at home, its illegal, do you go around telling people on the net/local home area) that you are the local drug dealer do you?its illegal,again.
2-go get inked,meet, and make friends with your local artist/shop you like,really try to make a friend, if you love this, you already have something in common,hangout outside of work,like really make a friend, don't use someone.
3-practice,practice,practice drawing,show your work, take in critizism,learn and show again,keep pushing foward, and trying.all this has worked for me. i have a couple of professional friends,yeah im not in a shop yet but they push me, and they know im hungry.
just like everyone here, i won't spit any secrets ive learned cause its not easy,i work everyday hard for what i know.
i work full time, i have a wife, and i still bust my butt and make things happen.if you want it bad enough you wouldn't be here searching it for free.

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 3/22/2009 10:11:30 AM

I don't understand all the negativity here. I've have been trying to get into a shop now for at least 8 years. No one is offereing apprenticeships and trade secrets are impossible to learn for newbies. Recently I became friends with an older tattooist who used to run a shop and now tattoos from his home studio. After mentoring me for about a year and a half we went our seperate ways. Now, I tattoo out of my home studio, and have been for almost 2 years, because I still can't land an apprenticeship. I have ALL the equipment that would be found in a regular studio. I've done over 20 tats on friends not to mention that I've covered almost every reachable part of myself. I have the skill but unfortunately the shops are only into making money, they're not in it for the art it seems. So, I ask you, in my position, what is wrong with me applying my art from home? I'm sure that people engage in other art mediums from home, ie. painting, sculpting, etc. and none of you would have the slightest problem with it. Peace.

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 5/21/2009 11:52:06 AM

In most states it is illegal to perform the art of tattooing as a business in your home.I have researched this. If you aren't making any money,then you aren't a business.Personally I do all mine for free.I might ask them to buy the supplies if I don't have them at hand but guess what? I make no profit and therefore I am not a BUSINESS, plus I get to yank a few dollars out of the local shops, seeing as they won't give out apprenticeships either.I think it is funny because there are no telling how many artists started out as scratchers, then when they get a shop they act all self righteous and claim they apprenticed into the art and bitch about other scratchers because they are stealing money out of their pockets.
Do I think it is fair? Hell no
Do I take the art seriously? Hell Yes
Do I take cleanliness seriously? Hell Yes
Do I give a fuck? Hell no
Do I think it's funny? Hell Yes
Life isn't fair, get a helmet.
Truth is JONO the ones that will care the MOST about what you are doing are the people you work on and the people you are stealing business from.I do it for free because I am proving to myself and anyone else that I am not like the rest and in it just for the money.Plus since I am not making money, I am not doing anything illegal.Problem->solution I get to do what I love and learn about it and a few people get some free art.Sure it costs me time and some of my own money, but dues are going to be paid somewhere, if it's not apprenticing at a shop then it will be something else,at least thats what i figure.

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 6/4/2009 2:39:35 AM

if you can draw well you can find an apprenticeship. if you cant draw well, go pick up some job applications cuz there is no place in our industry for you.

**Re: REHAB Reply** Posted: 6/30/2009 3:22:32 PM

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