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**Black Inks?** Posted: 7/5/2006 11:49:38 AM

Hey, I was just wondering what black ink everyone is using.
I have always used Kuro Sumi because i heard good things about it, but i'm nervous to try anything else.

Posted: 7/5/2006 4:55:11 PM

You know, I just switched to kuro sumi recently and I'm not sure if I like it or not. I love how it outlines, and I beleive it's a good true black for solid black work, but it kinda makes me grumpy for shading. I think I'm going to go back to talons.

I've also been considering pelicans for shading... Any opinions on that?

**pelicans?** Posted: 7/5/2006 6:41:16 PM

No, havent heard of pelicans. But i know what you mean about the Kuro Sumi. I havent had much luck with its shading either.

Have you done any work with MOM's Black ink for shading?

Posted: 7/5/2006 8:50:14 PM

Yeah, I didn't like it too much though. It's very thick and kind of hard to get solid in the skin. Talons have given me the best work before all around, so I'll probably be going back to that.

Pelicans I've heard aren't good for solid black, because it heals lighter than other true blacks, but I hear it's great for shading.

**Real Black** Posted: 7/5/2006 10:13:53 PM

If you need a real Black Black try Eternal, personally I use Sumi, Eternal, and some new stuff from Cam that I really like not just the black but all the colors is Tat Wax ink, no amines and they will also give you reports on the heavy metal count which is nil and expected to meet any up coming standard in Calif. and other places to come. 8) ...Ron

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Posted: 7/6/2006 3:05:39 AM

Pelikan

Posted: 7/6/2006 7:42:20 AM

I mixed Kurosumi and pelican 50/50 for Black
then i mixed 1:3 1:6 and 1:10 with (Rosenwater) and some lysterine(alc) for shading, the rest is feeling :wink:

Posted: 7/7/2006 9:56:54 PM

Intenze is a great solid or dark black. For lining it's a little thin so I mix it with a little mom's to line with. As for shading, pelican mixed with witch hazel or distilled water depending on the piece for shading.
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Posted: 7/10/2006 6:59:06 AM

I use Talens for black and gray and I mix half Talens with half Sumi for my blacks.

Posted: 7/10/2006 6:07:46 PM

These statements are just my opinion based on what I have experimented with.
Agreed on Intenze for fill in/tribal (it blows out/spreads too much for outline). Talens is a warmer black, and heals with a slight reddish brown hue during greywash. It eventually greys out over a few months. On fair skin, it is BLACK!
Pelikan heals greenish to me, and because of its transparency, makes it harder to judge shades.
Moms is ok for fill in/tribal, seems to fade much quicker.

Posted: 7/11/2006 5:29:56 PM

I use Kuro sumi for just about everything.Lining, grey wash,even solid black.I'm hard headed,I guess.I find one thing I like and stick with it.

**black ink** Posted: 7/12/2006 2:34:46 PM

It's funny Black used to be just that Black, seems today in the great Art that is being produced Black has become more like any other color with all the shades and tones, and of coarse the holy grail the true really really dark Blackest Black. Has anyone used a little purple in there Black. :?: ...Ron

Posted: 7/12/2006 2:45:17 PM

I've never tried purple,But I use to add royal blue to my black.

**black ink cont** Posted: 7/12/2006 3:09:07 PM

yes i've heard of this also, I've used the purple on some cover-ups, deep blue yes this would work also. :wink: ...Ron

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**Black** Posted: 7/13/2006 1:09:37 AM

Painting it is Arrr I have found that some Ink makers have been known to add colors to that old carbon. Have you ever layered color to black in a Tattoo (multiple sessions, like a cover-up). Didn't check what forum is this can we say that. :lol: Have a fun week end all! :D ... Ron

Posted: 7/13/2006 1:55:40 AM

Heh heh...Yeah.This is the right place. :wink:

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tattoorob · Posted: 7/14/2006 11:07:21 AM

Hi guys,

Do you mean to say that adding a small amount of red to black is creating deeper black? I use Sharpz true black for lining and filling but I do experience problems with filling. I am about to switch all colors to Intenzewhich seems to be great.

Nice weekend to u 2!

Posted: 9/25/2006 5:29:26 PM

I use pelician for the lines and the shading, mixed with dark blues to get a deeper look to it in the shades. the angel i just posted was done this way check it out and tell me what you think.

Posted: 10/7/2006 1:24:37 AM

I use dynamic black for fill, a guy in detroit turned me on to it, if your using sumi you cant dillute it with water to get tones because its not water soluable, try witchhazel or even listerine. Eternal and pelican are good pelican and talens should be cooked down to remove the vegitable varnish or it will turn grayish green after about ten years. Black Onyx is good too there are a lot i guess, but you just stick with what works for oyu I reckon.

**one** Posted: 11/13/2006 2:35:43 AM

try using one from kingpin tattoo supply its favore by artists like joshua carlton paul aker and the entire all or nothing tattoo team its great for solid black work and beautiful greay shades ofcourse using mags especially curved ones personally i like using 49 mags for perfect smooth shades if anyone in here has any questions on technique and machine setup please feel free to message me

Urban Hillbilly · Posted: 11/13/2006 7:30:50 AM

yesterday I just reading about this hole in One black. I was thinking to order it. Now I´m using imax best black and talens for shading...

Posted: 11/16/2006 11:25:20 PM

I use tribal black from chorusline in Germany,It's not to thick for lining but still thick enough to make solid black pieces.
I see some people are using pelican ink,there was an article in a french tattoomagazine couple of years ago,by the pelican-company saying their ink was not suitable for tattooing and warning about the allergic reactions people can get on the chemicals they add for fastdrying on paper.
I tried adding some red to black,but never noticed any difference.

GlockInk · Posted: 11/27/2006 1:29:47 AM

Dynamic

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 7/30/2009 11:02:14 PM

Ive been using the ink from kingpin!! Called One great stuff lines great and fills great and doesent bog ur machine and dosent dry up in the cap !! Carltons black is great to in the Alla-prima line like it alote also the rest of the guys in my shop sware by starbrights tribal black!! Hard headed and they wont change their ways ...lol

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 8/5/2009 3:00:26 PM

I've been tattooing for 6 years, more recently as a professional. But I've used Starbrite Black, Intenze, Pelikan Black, and Kuro Sumi here more recently. I find Kuro Sumi is way better than anything else I've tried, and it stays true black. For my shading, I usually like to keep darker tones working into color so I just stay with the same black and lighten up my needle a little. But for portraits and black and grey, for my wash, I used a little glycerin and witch hazel half that, and half sumi black ink, and it works just fine. Better than any other wash I've used. They sell the kuro sumi grey wash too. But as far as black, I use Kuro sumi. It will take a lot to make me change that, because of the results I've seen.

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 11/8/2009 4:36:06 PM

I had some questions i work out of a shop In ontario Canada and my boss is a real peice of work he thinks hes Mr.tattoo but he's just well you get the point. I really cant ask him anything because he'll just tell me thats stupid and tells me how he does it iv done all my research and i know that great artists like bob tyrrell swear by pelikan but i just dont have the guts to use it. From what i have research that inks used now accually arent ink but pigment some cut with witchhazel some alchol based and others But pelican ink is a streight up drawing ink im finding it hard to try it out i could use some feed back so any answers would be greatly appreciated!

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 11/18/2009 3:33:56 PM

Sumi is my preferred. Tried talens, pelikan and sumi, I find sumi is the best for the work I do.

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 12/14/2009 1:43:14 PM

Sumi for lining- dynamic for shading. Depending on the other colors in the piece. I'll add a drop of opposing colors to black, just to offset it from the rest.

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 2/19/2010 5:09:27 PM

I tray quite new product from Intenze, Zuper Black, a it is really really dark ink for me, easy to use and i like it a lot! bot most of time I steel use Sumi. Zuper black is ZUPER black, but Sumi much cheeper a good quality product

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 3/31/2010 8:27:51 AM

I am working with Zuper Black from intenze for a while now and i think it is the best Black i had so far. So i stick with it. Its zuper black and easy to use, heals great and i do a lot of blackwork!

**Re: Black Inks?** Posted: 5/18/2010 1:25:01 PM

Waverly Dark Black. Waverly colors are WHERE ITS AT!

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